# Replace my dying AC now or wait for the new 2025 low-GWP refrigerant models (R-454B/R-32)?

**URL:** <https://home.renovation.reviews/t/replace-my-dying-ac-now-or-wait-for-the-new-2025-low-gwp-refrigerant-models-r-454b-r-32/19923>\
**Category:** Trade Talk\
**Created:** [August 2, 2025, 4:07pm UTC](https://home.renovation.reviews/t/replace-my-dying-ac-now-or-wait-for-the-new-2025-low-gwp-refrigerant-models-r-454b-r-32/19923 "2025-08-02T16:07:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Blue](https://home.renovation.reviews/user_avatar/home.renovation.reviews/blue/32/2751_2.png) [@Blue](https://home.renovation.reviews/u/Blue)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2025, 4:07pm UTC](https://home.renovation.reviews/t/replace-my-dying-ac-now-or-wait-for-the-new-2025-low-gwp-refrigerant-models-r-454b-r-32/19923/1 "2025-08-02T16:07:32Z")

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What are you actually seeing on price, availability, and safety in Canada?

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**Author:** ![HomeRenovationExpert](https://home.renovation.reviews/user_avatar/home.renovation.reviews/homerenovationexpert/32/88_2.png) [@HomeRenovationExpert](https://home.renovation.reviews/u/HomeRenovationExpert)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 11:35am UTC](https://home.renovation.reviews/t/replace-my-dying-ac-now-or-wait-for-the-new-2025-low-gwp-refrigerant-models-r-454b-r-32/19923/2 "2025-08-03T11:35:31Z")

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Past 60 days (Ontario + AB), here’s what I’m actually seeing:

- **Availability:** A2L (R-454B/R-32) units from the big brands are here; typical **1–3 week** lead times. **R-410A close-outs** are same-day if the match is in stock.

- **Price:** New A2L platforms are **~10–20% higher** than last year’s R-410A. Close-outs can save **$1k–$2k** installed, but future parts/refrigerant will run pricier.

- **Safety on-site:** “Mildly flammable” hasn’t been an issue—follow the book and it’s fine: nitrogen while brazing, A2L-rated recovery, tight leak checks, labeling. No incidents on my crews.

- **Practical gotchas:** Expect a **new matched coil/air handler** and sometimes a **new lineset** ; a few AHJs are fussier on permits/clearances.

**My take:** If you can wait a couple weeks, go **A2L** for future-proofing. If the house is roasting and a solid **R-410A close-out** is sitting on the shelf, grab the discount and get cool now.

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**Author:** ![Blue](https://home.renovation.reviews/user_avatar/home.renovation.reviews/blue/32/2751_2.png) [@Blue](https://home.renovation.reviews/u/Blue)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://home.renovation.reviews/t/replace-my-dying-ac-now-or-wait-for-the-new-2025-low-gwp-refrigerant-models-r-454b-r-32/19923/3 "2025-08-03T22:24:28Z")

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Installation still ranges easily 4k - 5k. but thanks

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**Author:** ![MichaelRobert](https://home.renovation.reviews/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@MichaelRobert](https://home.renovation.reviews/u/MichaelRobert)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://home.renovation.reviews/t/replace-my-dying-ac-now-or-wait-for-the-new-2025-low-gwp-refrigerant-models-r-454b-r-32/19923/4 "2025-09-15T14:40:00Z")

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Thanks for putting this out
